From: vince@offshore.ai (Vincent Cate) Newsgroups: sci.space.tech Subject: Radiation shielding for hotel at GEO? NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.88.68.230 Message-ID: <9186edb5.0308081641.5036919e@posting.google.com> How much water (or pick some other) shielding would it take for a hotel at GEO to get the total radiation down to numbers like 25 rem/year or 5 rem/year? It seems that the radiation in GEO is higher than in deep space (say same distance from the Sun but not near earth). GEO is outside the Van Allen Belts, so this was a surprise. But it seems that it is inside the magnetosphere and that the radiation is sort of compressed as it squeezes past the Earth. Since GEO is in this squeezed area radiation levels are higher. Is this correct? It would only be the Sun's radiation that was concentrated, not the galactic cosmic radiation (GCR), right? It also seems that almost all radiation from the Sun can be stopped by like 25 grams/cm^2 of water (including solar particle events). It is only the GCR that would bother you if you had this much shielding. It also seems that even with this much shielding the GCR would be such that you might not want to be there for more than a year. In the Lunar Base Handbook section 16.3.3 they indicate that 75 gram/cm^2 would reduce the GCR to around 25 cSv, which I think is 25 rem as well. Going from 45 to 75 grams did not improve things much on the graph, so it seems it would take a lot. I have heard numbers like 3 meters or 5 meters of regolith. The moon at least shields you one one side. So it seems like GCR in open space is going to be like twice this. Is there a conversion ratio to go from regolith to water shielding? If a guy wanted to understand radiation at GEO and shielding humans from this radiation, is there a book anyone can recommend? It seems like tossing to a hotel/space-station in GEO is the best way to use a space tether picking up a suborbital payload. With this we could toss something every 90 minutes. Shielding the hotel is an issue, but the space tether can launch stuff so much cheaper that this seems manageable. I think I am only worried about the GCR for long term staff at the hotel, not for tourists visiting for a week. But I want to understand this better. Passing through the Van Allen Belts on a GTO seems like it may add something like 0.2 rem each way, depending on shielding. Does this seem about right? Can anyone recommend some software for simulating space radiation and shielding? The SPENVIS - SPace ENVironment Information System program looks really nice. You can give it a trajectory, shielding description, and it can calculate a radiation dose. However, I have not been able to get a user name and password yet. It may be that they do not permit access from outside the USA. http://www.spenvis.oma.be/spenvis/ NASA has these AE-8 and AP-8 models for electron and proton radiation around Earth. Has anyone used this? This is only part of what I want to know, still need the shielding info. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/space/model/magnetos/radbelt.html Any other recommendations? -- Vince