From: vince@offshore.ai (Vincent Cate)
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Subject: Re: Space elevator vs Rotovator
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economic_refugee@yahoo.com (E.R.) wrote in message
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> Nice essay, Vince.  No, I mean that.  Healthy debate is a _good_
> thing.

:-)  Thanks.

> Agreed, 24k Shuttle flights is unfeasable.  The Highlift scheme
> requires 6 Shuttle trips, or an equal number of Delta 4/3 flights.

The design we are working on bootstraps from 20,000 lbs plus
the empty second stage of a Zenit.  So this is like 1/18th
the initial mass Highlift systems.

>> "And this beaming power is a futeristic concept that makes it seem
>> like tethers are not practical today"
>
> There is a design for the beaming laser (free electron type) on the
> table today - I think I've read that the company is ready to build,
> they lack customers.

It is still a futuristic concept where it is hard to say how much
development it is going to take (years or dollars), or how well it
will really work.  SDI has billions and I don't think they have
a laser anywhere near the power at that distance that these guys
need.

>> "If it takes 15 days to climb, you have a radiation risk. If a
>> solar partical event (aka solar flare) happens during this time
>> the passengers could be in danger."
>
> I agree with you.  An SE might not be the best method to ship
> people - but cargo doesn't care how much radiation it gets.
> Perhaps the best method to ship people up is OSP or rotovator,
> then a quick shuttle elsewhere.

I think the big market over the next 20 years is tourism.  So if it
is not good for that, I don't think it is much use really.

But the SE will be much more expensive than the rotovator, so
why even use it for cargo?

  -- Vince

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