From: Vincent Cate (vince@offshore.ai) Subject: Re: JP Aerospace and rotating sun toy View this article only Newsgroups: sci.space.policy Date: 2004-05-09 22:34:50 PST The toy is called a Radiometer and the effect is the "radiometric effect". You can see a picture of one at: http://store.yahoo.com/explo/radiometer.html The rest is some notes I made about URLs I found with google. - Vince http://www.globalwarmingsolutions.co.uk/crooks_radiometer_and_otheoscope.htm several orders of magnitude greater than solar sail force 10E-3 to 10E-4 atmospheres "Reynolds and Maxwell proposed an explanation involving 'thermal transpiration' but even today there is still no complete explanation of how this little toy works." "There has been no attempt to harness the rotational energy to measure the efficiency of conversion but I suspect that solar is converted into rotational energy with very high efficiency in the radiometer." http://www.betrisey.ch/presbok11.htm "The mechanism by which it operates is very complex and frequently stated incorrectly." Experiments seem to indicate "thermal transpiration" is at least most of what is going on. http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~sapphire/subsystem/adc/radiometer/radiometer.html AMSAT people used radiometric effect to induce 1/2 rpm in 3 weeks time http://eotvos.dm.unipi.it/nobili/opendiscussion/radiometer_PRD_2001.pdf Left side of page 2 has formula for "radiometric effect" given temp, pressure, ... http://eotvos.dm.unipi.it/nobili/opendiscussion/radiometer_microscope_revised.pdf Has formula http://science.howstuffworks.com/question239.htm Crookes' radiometer http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/LightMill/light-mill.html Thermal transpiration / light-mill Thrust comes at the edges - discounts many other explanations http://sargentwelch.com/product.asp?pn=WL1734%5FEA $10 - 99% evacuated - gas expands on black side and so pushes This looks like the one I have http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_3116000 Hand made radiometers. "Energy is released as the heated molecules kick away at great speeds, causing the vanes to revolve within the vacuum."